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I’m currently running power to my garage. I have to special order 1.5” flexible metal conduit. So I was going to just use some one inch stuff. I didn’t want to buy 25ft. So I found smurf tube. Can I use that for my flexible conduit from the outside of my house to my box inside my house? I’ve tried to find any code on it. I don’t go over the fill limit. But I got told that that’s not conduit that it’s only for data and low voltage. I’m using 29” of it from where it comes through my wall to my box. Any info would be great

Cory
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  • Is there no way to get-er-done in hard conduit? Angles just too difficult? – Harper - Reinstate Monica Nov 30 '19 at 04:03
  • Is this run entirely indoors (i.e. you're coming out of the back of the exterior-box straight into the inside wall)? Also, this is actual UL listed ENT (blue stuff), not a communications raceway (orange stuff), right? – ThreePhaseEel Nov 30 '19 at 04:49
  • My basement has a ceiling that is lowered. And wher I needed to get to was a full arms length away. And I was completely blind doing it. Putting hard conduit would be virtually impossible. I was going to use the flexible steel stuff but I don’t need 25’.

    Yes this is fully inside in the blue ent. I marked the outside of it with 220v just for extra safety. As I read in commercial instances people use it for data mostly.

    – Cory Nov 30 '19 at 19:48

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ENT is A-OK for residential mains wiring

Actual UL listed ENT ("smurf tube") is a perfectly fine mains wiring method in 99% of the work we see around here, allowed basically everywhere NM can be used. This is spelled out in NEC 362.10, with point 1 applying to us:

(1) In any building not exceeding three floors above grade as follows:

a. For exposed work, where not prohibited by 362.12

b. Concealed within walls, floors, and ceilings

Note that ENT uses PVC fittings and conduit bodies, by and large, although special "snap lock" fittings can be used for ENT if cementing is undesirable for some reason. This also makes it easy to transition to PVC for the outdoor section of the run, as well.

Fill wise: you're good to go, but not by much

Your 4 4AWG THWN wires take up 212.64mm² of fill, while your 1" ENT has 215mm² of usable space, making your proposed pull quite a tight fit. I would downsize the ground wire to 8AWG if I were in your shoes; that's the minimum size required by the NEC for all circuits up to 100A, and will save you 29.55mm² of fill.

Garage panel selection and grounding

Since this is a feeder to a detached building, we know we will need to put a subpanel in at the garage. Furthermore, this subpanel will need to be a main breaker type, as that's the cheapest way to provide a local shutoff means at the garage, and have separate ground bars fitted so that neutral and ground are separated properly at the subpanel. Finally, we'll want it to be of ample size so that you don't need to go back and replace it later because it filled up: a 24- or 30-space, 100A or 125A panel will do the trick here, and isn't much costlier than a smaller panel would be. Don't forget to ensure the bonding screw or strap is pulled when the panel is installed!

Since this is a detached building, we also need to make sure that the garage has a proper grounding electrode system fitted. At its simplest, we can use two 8' deep ground rods, driven 8' apart, and connected to each other and to the garage subpanel's ground bar with 8AWG copper wire to handle that in this case.

TORQUE ALL LUGS TO SPEC

When fitting the new wires and panel, you will need to use an inch-pound torque screwdriver or torque wrench to torque all breaker and panel lugs to the torques printed on the labeling. This is required by 110.14(D) in the 2017 NEC, and also a good idea even if your AHJ doesn't require it, lest your electrical system lose you the race!

ThreePhaseEel
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  • I've seen "AHJ" used many times on electrical answers, but can't for the life of me come up with words that make sense. Care to get out the clue bat? – FreeMan Dec 03 '19 at 20:01
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    @FreeMan -- AHJ = Authority Having Jurisdiction, aka the local code enforcers – ThreePhaseEel Dec 03 '19 at 23:40
  • Nope. Never woulda come up with that one! Thanks. – FreeMan Dec 04 '19 at 00:48
  • Thanks so much! Only reason I used 4awg for the ground is cause I bought a roll of 4awg wire and saved like $4 cause they had a Black Friday sale if you bought a roll. I thought I was close on my fill. Codes are worded funny so I wanted to make sure I was correct on my deciphering of it. As far as the panel. I plan to get one with 20ish spaces. Even though I don’t need it. And in my area the inspector allows you to throw the rods in the trench which makes it easier. Already have them just haven’t done anything with them as I’m waiting to buy my box. Thanks for all the help! – Cory Dec 04 '19 at 01:36
  • @Cory -- 24spaces/100A is a pretty decent size for an outbuilding – ThreePhaseEel Dec 04 '19 at 01:39
  • I ended up with a 100 amp 12space. Two ground rods 8ft long spaced 8 ft apart. 4awg wire through 1.5” conduit 18” in the ground. This will be replaced by copper in three years when I get more power in my house do I can have a 100smps in my garage. I want to add a mini split system out there after I insulate it. – Cory Dec 14 '19 at 20:05
  • Why only 12 spaces?! That's rather on the small side for a garage subpanel.... – ThreePhaseEel Dec 14 '19 at 20:28